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How Gay Marriage Is Like Rock And Roll

Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:06 AM EST
politics, opinion, gay-marriage, homosexuality, op-ed, civil-unions, rock-and-roll, futureworks
By Aaron Ross Powell
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Civil unions are like the prizes they hand out at the very end of an elementary school contest of skill. All the winners get books, crayons, or other cool trinkets and then the teacher says, "Because all the rest of you did such good jobs, I've got packets of Pop Rocks for everyone." Those kids know they're still on the margins and that the candy is a consolation at best but, hey, when there's nothing else, you might as well enjoy it—and see if the legend about eating the stuff and drinking soda carries any weight.

In recent weeks, I've stumbled into a rather heavy share of debates about legalizing gay marriage. I'm used to the bigots who tell us God hates the gays because they're yucky, but a new stance has been rearing its equally disheveled head. In fact, scratch that. This argument is way worse than the bigots. At least those guys come right out and say it. They don't like gay people and don't want to do anything that might encourage gays to consider life a wonderful gift full of opportunities instead of a journey to suffer through until hellfire and damnation. But the intolerant tolerance view of the new crowd is completely without sense—and honesty.

Here's the typical argument I've been hearing. A man and a man are free to enter into union. They can get all the benefits of marriage from a legal standpoint, too: tax filing, visitation rights, inheritance, and so on. Perhaps they're even allowed to adopt children. But we won't call it marriage. Maybe "domestic partnership" will do. Because marriage is a sacred vow between a man and a woman. Or a man and a lifelong sequence of women. Or one woman and man after man after man since, surely, somewhere there has to be a Mr. Right. Marriage they all can have, but it's just not for the gays. Near as I can tell, this has to do with marriage traditionally occurring under a church roof—or a chupah, if you happen to find yourself sitting through that Super Bowl of ceremonies, the old school Jewish wedding.

We'll ignore that marriage came about as a legal notion to defend property rights and inheritance. It originally had nothing to do with love or the sanctity of one man and one woman. Speaking of which, that monogamy thing is more than a little out of the ordinary, too, when you consider that for most of the world, the man doesn't limit himself to a single wife but gathers up as many as his social standing—and stamina—will allow. The Christian view of marriage is in the minority, to say the least.

That's where rock and roll comes in. You see, to the person using the "you can do whatever, just don't call it marriage" argument, the government should only allow two people to marry if the arrangement meets the criteria for the term as understood by a shrinking portion of the population. These people certainly were in the mainstream in the past and may still be now, but they won't be for long. As it turns out, teenagers are smart about one thing: in increasing numbers, they recognize that marriage is ideally about two people who deeply love each other entering into a life long commitment. If they happen to be two men or two women, so what? It's the love and the bond that count.

But let's get back to rock.

To demonstrate the point promised in the title, let me give the same argument again but, this time, I'll switch the terminology and focus. If you hang out with enough music lovers, you always find that one guy. He's the dude with concert shirts older than your parents who spends most evenings either rocking out to his collection of, well, rock, or telling other people they ought to be doing the same. Get him drunk and he'll start spewing the refrain we've all heard before: "Rock and roll ended with Jimi Hendrix (or whatever band the guy is totally into). He died in '70 and rock died with him. Everything since is crap and it's not just crap. It's sellout, corporate, stupid people crap." You then give him some line about how maybe this band, the one that just released that amazing album not two months ago, surely they're rock and roll? But, no, it's not the same thing. And, what's more, he's taking his beer and going home because to even call that stuff rock is to offend him straight through to his cockles.

He's got his own idea of what rock and roll music is and he just can't imagine that anyone else would think differently. If they do, there's something wrong, and taking his beer and going home—or getting the government to pass a law about it—is the only solution he can imagine. Fortunately, not many of us take people like that seriously, nor should we. They can sulk in their dens until Jimi Hendrix is born again and the rest of the world will move on.

Homosexuality is well along the road to acceptance—and marriage is a crucial and inevitable part of that. So let's all enjoy our new music and our new culture and realize that there will always be some who are simply and profoundly bothered by change.

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ultimathule

Are you gay?

    Reply#1 - Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:50 AM EST
    nick

    Aaron, very thoughtful analysis. I agree. CPA, are you brain damaged?

      Reply#2 - Tue Jan 31, 2006 3:42 AM EST
      M0zez

      An amusing read and just that. The tradition of marriage in many cultures has evolved and fragmented usually toward the right of the political and in many cases christian scale. This has been a conscious transformation by the political and religious elite to preserve their idea of union and indeed ones behaviour following marriage.

      It is not simply the world is changing and therefore traditionalist must and eventually will comes to terms with our changing society. As long as our leaders and intent on controlling the legal, social and religious infrastructure in the US (Supreme court anyone?) the battle and I do not use this word flippantly is far from over.

      We should expect different views on Homosexuality and accept them without fear of violence, social alienation and inequality however I do not think that this will change anytime soon. It is with immense respect for deceased and active activists and their enduring belief in equality we all including Heterosexual men and women should sigh a breath of relief that at least some element of democracy is still allowed in the USA.

        Reply#3 - Tue Jan 31, 2006 7:03 AM EST
        Japhiah

        Great article, Aaron, I couldn't agree more. I certainly hope you're right about the teenagers and subsequent generations.

        M0zez, the comma is your friend :)

          Reply#4 - Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:20 AM EST
          Aaron Ross Powell

          CPA-

          Nope. I'm straight and engaged to a wonderful woman I'll be marrying in June. But as a strong civil libertarian, I believe that the freedoms and legal protections I have must be shared by all equally.

            Reply#5 - Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:23 AM EST
            Brian Ford

            I've argued that a marriage cannot be a legal state-sponsored union and a religious ceremony that is only available to certain people.

            The religious ceremony should be an option to anyone who wants it but have nothing to do with the idea of two people who love each other joining into a marriage that is legally recognized by the state. This is just another example of Big Religion seizing something that isn't theirs only to withhold it from those with whom they do not agree.

            The real problem with marriage? The divorce rate amongst heterosexual couples who are allowed get married.

              Reply#6 - Tue Jan 31, 2006 10:46 AM EST
              Doc Holoday

              "The real problem with marriage? The divorce rate amongst heterosexual couples who are allowed get married."

              The real problem with marriage is that our cultures idea of it has become so warped by popular media that no one recognizes it anymore. According to TV, it's completely ok to sleep around, cheat on your partner (gay or strait) and generally be a burden on society so long as at the end of the hour everyone has learned their lesson. Don't even get me started on "reality tv".

              I'm neither a staunch conservative or liberal, but I've used the "just don't call it marriage" argument myself. This whole argument is over a word. A word that gets you a discount. THAT'S what people want. Not to be "married", they want the tax break. They want lower insurance premiums, more benefits. If people truly wanted to be "married" and not a "union", they should want it even if they get NOTHING extra whatsoever.

              On the same note, we SHOULDN'T give breaks and benefits to married couples. I'm married and I think that. It's ridiculous. My car insurance went down because I'm married? Huh? Like I'm going to speed less now? Married couples shouldn't have different health care because they might have a baby. That's crazy. Individuals should be insured, taxed and handled INDIVIDUALLY.

              When someone comes up to me and asks why I won't support gay marriage, I'll say "it's because I shouldn't get a tax break and neither should you."

              The whole argument is stupid. People want what others have, don't kid yourself into thinking it's a political/religious debate.

                Reply#7 - Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:31 AM EST
                Tim Whitman

                Doc - if you don't want your tax break, I'll take it. You use PayPal?

                  Reply#8 - Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:47 AM EST
                  Artemis Pender

                  I think that gay marriage should be perfectly legal for the simple reason that gays deserve the right to lose half their stuff when they break up too.

                    Reply#9 - Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:53 AM EST
                    Aaron Ross Powell

                    Doc - The trouble with your argument is that you're equating the legal institution of marriage to money saving exclusively and then going on to argue that people therefore only want to be married to save money. But it's a lot more than that. For example, visitation rights are huge. That a gay man can be bared from visiting his partner in the hospital because they aren't legally allowed to be married is abhorrent.

                    And it's very much a political and religious debate. I have never heard a gay person argue for marriage by saying, "It's not fair that I don't get a tax break, too." And I've never heard a social conservative make the claim that gays shouldn't marry because marriage is just about money. You're dealing in straw men.

                    Even if there were no monetary benefits to civil union / marriage, gays would still want to be able to have their love and commitment legally recognized, just as straight people do.

                      Reply#10 - Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:54 AM EST
                      Japhiah

                      Doc, I don't think very many people get married for the tax break. And I know that's not why most gay people want the right to be married. They want their relationships and the choice they've made (to be with one person the rest of their life) to be recognized legally, just like yours was. The fact is, you do get the benefits, but they don't. Why? Because they are gay.

                      The overwhelming majority of people that are against gay marriage are against it because of religious and/or political beliefs (are they really different anymore?). Those same people seem to be afraid of legalizing gay marriage because they think that "sends the message that its OK". Guess what? It is OK.

                        Reply#11 - Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:57 AM EST
                        stevelucky

                        docholoday speaks some sense. to say that someone deserves the tax breaks, i'm not sure about that. i haven't seen anywhere in the bill of rights that promises tax breaks to a certain group of the population. obviously we see that a certain groups gets them, but that is not a right promised by the constitution or bill of rights. personally, i'm against gay marriage for religious reasons (i know, i know, i'm the worst type of jimi hendrix loving crazy). i can honestly say that i've had a few friends that were gay. not many, but a few, and they were great people. but that doesn't change the fact that i have convictions with historical and religious background that cause me to believe one way. the rock and roll comparison is ridiculous and insulting. to compare me (or all of the people who disagree with you) to an obsessive, drunk jimi hendrix fan is very convenient. i love the way you paint with such a broad brush. this issue goes a little deeper than that. i have no issue with you believing how you believe, why do you have such an issue with how i believe? i'm doing nothing to "enforce" my beliefs on you. i realize that there are those zealots out there who take actions that i believe are unfair and downright disgusting, but they don't represent me. are you against religion in general? or just the religions that oppose gay marriage? i don't believe that gay people are going to burn in hell, anymore than i believe the philanderers of our society will . judgement is reserved for God and i'm not going to attempt to start it any earlier. i'd appreciate it if you do the same.

                        p.s. - the new arctic monkeys album is amazing. rock and roll is definitely not dead.

                          Reply#12 - Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:10 PM EST
                          Brian Ford

                          The real problem with marriage is that our cultures idea of it has become so warped by popular media that no one recognizes it anymore.

                          I don't particularly agree with this speculation.

                            Reply#13 - Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:12 PM EST
                            stevelucky

                            japhiah, apparently not everyone believes it is okay. it's amazing to me how the people who support gay marriage are such hypocrites. you pretend to be so accepting of others "gays are a minority and they deserve the same rights as you", but then will openly come out and say "the religious right are quickly becoming the minority and your antiquated beliefs are insane". does anyone see the irony here? which is it? do you support the minority or not? and just who is the minority now? or maybe it's all just a convenient excuse to make your position sound a little better. don't pretend to be so accepting of others when all it takes is a quick skim of your posts here to realize that that's obviously not the case. i wish you would drop the grandstanding and stand up for what you believe without the lame cover.

                              Reply#14 - Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:20 PM EST
                              Japhiah

                              i'm doing nothing to "enforce" my beliefs on you.

                              Maybe not personally, but people in power who share your beliefs are; they are outlawing gay marriage.

                              i don't believe that gay people are going to burn in hell, anymore than i believe the philanderers of our society will.

                              So gay people and philanderers are in the same boat eh? Do you mean both are gonna burn in hell or both are bad people but won't burn?

                                Reply#15 - Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:23 PM EST
                                Japhiah

                                stevelucky, can you point me to an example of my grandstanding?

                                  Reply#16 - Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:26 PM EST
                                  stevelucky

                                  So gay people and philanderers are in the same boat eh? Do you mean both are gonna burn in hell or both are bad people but won't burn?

                                  i was trying to draw an analogy, not trying to completely equate the two. what i was trying to say is that i disagree with both of them. i also said that i can't judge anyone so i won't attempt to. why is it so hard for people to believe that someone else might have a moral stance on certain things? i knkow it's so hard for you to believe that someone could possibly see homosexuality as wrong, but i do. many people do. i'm not saying that i don't like homosexuals, just that i disagree with what they do. i know it's hard for you to wrap your head around.

                                    Reply#17 - Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:28 PM EST
                                    stevelucky

                                    i was speaking more towards the author than you. i have to leave for an appointment but i look forward to continuing this when i get back.

                                      Reply#18 - Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:29 PM EST
                                      Aaron Ross Powell

                                      stevelucky- What my column dealt with was the people who think we should not extend the legal institution of marriage to gays. If you don't believe gays should get married -- or think homosexuality is a sin -- that's okay. I know a good deal of people who feel that way. What I object to is legislating based upon those beliefs. That you think marriage should be between a man and a woman for religious reasons does not give you the right to pass a law enforcing that.

                                      And your comment about there not being a right to equal tax breaks is spot on. There isn't such a right. But the Constitution does explicitly demand equal protection under the law. This is why we can't have one set of homicide laws for blacks and another for women and yet another for Asians. Why should legal marriage be any different?

                                      Finally, the notion that supporting one minority (gays) while not supporting the views of another (Christian conservatives) is hypocritical is downright silly. Gays are only seeking the same rights (in this case marriage) that everyone else gets. I support them in that. Many religious people want to restrict the rights of gays. I don't support that. Where's the contradiction?

                                        Reply#19 - Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:31 PM EST
                                        Aaron Ross Powell

                                        Says stevelucky,

                                        i knkow it's so hard for you to believe that someone could possibly see homosexuality as wrong, but i do. many people do.

                                        Oh, I have no trouble understanding why a lot of people see it as wrong. But that's very different from accepting their desire to enforce that feeling of moral condemnation via legislation. There are many behaviors people engage in that I disagree with. I don't care for sport hunting, for example. I see it as morally wrong to kill an animal for fun and I won't ever do it myself. But I would never support a law that made it illegal to hunt deer. My moral sense does not automatically trump that of others, no matter how divinely inspired I may believe it to be. So long as a behavior does not directly violate the rights of other people (i.e., theft, murder, fraud, assault, etc.) and is kept between consenting adults, why should I be able to dictate what others can and cannot do? Let us not forget that this country was founded in large part by religous people fleeing European persecution of their beliefs.

                                          Reply#20 - Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:36 PM EST
                                          Japhiah

                                          stevelucky: The difference between people who don't agree with religious doctrine (myself included) and people who don't think gays should be allowed to get married is an important one. I (and no one else I've heard) is saying that you shouldn't be allowed to go to church or wear a cross around your neck or wear your WWJD bracelet. We're not trying to restrict you from the same benefits and means of expression that the rest of society enjoys. You, on the other hand, (again, maybe not personally but people in power who share your beliefs) are doing exactly that. You are implicitly saying their lifestyle is 'wrong' and will not be recognized by the government and/or society as a whole.

                                          Anyone can believe anything they want. Just don't impose requirements or restrictions on people who feel differently.

                                            Reply#21 - Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:45 PM EST
                                            resist

                                            I will never understand the notion of some people can get married and some people can't. A black man approached me in a parking lot shortly before the 2004 election asking me to sign a position for issue 2 (the issue that would alter the Ohio constitution to define marriage as between a man and a woman.)

                                            I posed the following question to him: If you allow people to change the constitution to read marriage is only between a man and a woman, what's to stop people from changing it to read marriage is only between a white protestant man and white protestant woman? He had nothing else to say. Christians aren't the only people allowed to provide what is an acceptable definition for marriage, and I'm not sure what makes them think they should be afforded this right to discriminate. Besides, what of divorce?

                                            I'm not sure why our government allows some special interest group to pay this man to harass me in a parking lot and ask me to discriminate against myself.

                                              Reply#22 - Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:14 PM EST
                                              Jason Coleman

                                              Let's back off of the marriage word for a moment and take a look at the whole benefits issue, which go far, far beyond a simple tax break. Many large companies which provide health insurance allow for domestic partner insurance as well. You don't have to be married to have your significant other covered, you just have to provided evidence of being in a stable, long term commitment (please don't read too much into that, as it's my phrasing). My former employer would insure another adult who you had lived with for at least three years, for example.

                                              Companies did this to attract qualified employees. It made perfect sense and the company, being a non-religious entity, surely didn't care who they were paying insurance for as long as they got the employees they wanted. Then, enter the conservatives. Just banning the word marriage from gays wasn't enough. No, they had to pass laws banning providing any marriage-like benefits to homosexual couples. Never mind hurting businesses that were doing nothing other than providing a benefit for their employees, the government had to interfere and possibly cause businesses to lose employees (yes, people move over that sort of thing). This from the same people who used to tell us that the government was a harmful entity and had no right telling business how to operate (i.e. - minimum wage, overtime pay).

                                              I can't speak for everyone, but I can assure you that I don't get my idea of what makes a great marriage from my television. My wife and I build those values ourselves, from what we learned about our parents, as well as what we know about one another. Please, don't tell me that we don't know what marriage means because you are the one is devaluing the word. The only two people on this earth who will affect our marriage are the two of us, not gays, not anyone on television, not the government, and not our religion. That's what a marriage is and I can't, for the life of me, see why anyone other couple shouldn't get to experience that wonderful challenge.

                                                Reply#23 - Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:32 PM EST
                                                Tim Whitman

                                                But the Constitution does explicitly demand equal protection under the law. This is why we can't have one set of homicide laws for blacks and another for women and yet another for Asians. Why should legal marriage be any different?

                                                Your equal protection argument doesn't hold up because gay persons can get married. There is nothing in the law that prevents a gay person from getting married. In fact, lots of them have.

                                                From the government's perspective, a marriage is a recognized tax entity comprised of a partnership between a man and a woman. And no one is barred by the government from entering into such a partnership.

                                                What you are advocating is the reclassification of this recognized tax entity from a partnership between a man and a woman to one between any two persons regardless of gender.

                                                There is no constitutional mandate for your argument. It might be accepted on popular terms as more and more people accept the idea of a "marriage" between two people of the same sex, but there is no violation of equal protection.

                                                Another way to think about it is to consider the many benefits the government hands out to different groups based on what they do. Consider the home buying programs some states make available to teachers. Can anyone other than a teacher benefit from these programs? No. But being a teacher is open to any person, so there isn't any violation of equal protection.

                                                  Reply#24 - Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:41 PM EST
                                                  Aaron Ross Powell

                                                  Tim- Your analogy is flawed, I believe. You say:

                                                  Another way to think about it is to consider the many benefits the government hands out to different groups based on what they do. Consider the home buying programs some states make available to teachers. Can anyone other than a teacher benefit from these programs? No. But being a teacher is open to any person, so there isn't any violation of equal protection.

                                                  Yes, anyone can be a teacher. But not everyone can be straight. The evidence that homosexuality is genetic and determined from birth is overwhelming. It isn't a choice. So, to draw a better parallel, you'd have to argue that states can set aside housing benefits for, say, whites but not blacks. Clearly that's not as easy to swallow.

                                                    Reply#25 - Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:44 PM EST
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